NY Vets/RockVets newsletter:  April 2015 edition
Veterans Service Agency of Rockand County, NY
Jerry Donnellan, Director
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RockVets Newsletter

April 2015                              845-638-5244
Volume 6
Issue 4



Kilroy is Still Here!


On Friday, May 8th, 2015, we will have a ceremony honoring World War II veterans with presentation of the Rockland County Medal.  The public is welcome to attend.  The ceremony will be held at North Rockland High School, Hammond Road, Thiells, New York 10984. Please send Jerry Donnellan a copy of your discharge and proof of residency as soon as possible, so we can order the necessary World War II medals.  

Ever wonder about the origin of Kilroy?   He is engraved in stone in the National War Memorial in Washington, D.C., back in a small alcove where very few people have seen it. For the WWII generation, this will bring back memories. For you younger folks, it's a bit of trivia that is a part of our American history.  No one knew why he was so well known, but everybody seemed to get into it.

So who was Kilroy?   In 1946 the American Transit Association, through its radio program, "Speak to America," sponsored a nationwide contest to  find the real Kilroy, offering a prize of a real trolley car to the person who could prove himself to be the genuine article. Almost 40 men stepped forward to make that claim,  but only James Kilroy from Halifax, Massachusetts, had evidence of his identity. 

To read the rest of the story, use this link: /LiteratureRetrieve.aspx?ID=223556



Jerry's thoughts on...  


I know I'm not the only one getting concerned about the unending pleas for money from national veterans’ organizations. Every night on TV they parade war veterans with missing limbs to a background of weeping parents and spouses. Further, have you noticed that there has been a shift from physical war injuries to PTSD and TBI injuries? Could it be that since the combat in Iraq and Afghanistan has ended, they're running out of visible product, and the fact that psychological injuries outnumber amputations by 3 to 1?

That may sound a little cold but it's true. National veterans organizations hire professional fund raisers and marketing companies to raise money. And they take their piece before it goes back to the national veterans organization, who also take their administrative costs before any money actually goes to the veteran.  A few years back, one of these national veterans organizations, a name all of us know, made headlines they didn't want to, by only using 15% of money raised for the actual cause claimed.  Another organization, tracked by CNN was 0%.

In October 1969, I was wounded in Vietnam. Lost my right leg. Almost lost my right arm, fractured my skull and had multiple fragmentation wounds. At the ripe old age of 22 with a 21 year old wife who was 8 months pregnant here in Rockland County, I could have been the subject for one of those commercials. Somehow with just the help of the US Army and the Department of Veterans Affairs and their caring, professional, and dedicated staff, and very supportive friends and relatives, I got back on my feet - foot, whatever.

Don't get me wrong -  I don't want to discourage anyone from supporting our veterans. But if you wish to donate, give to your local veterans’ organizations.There are groups here in the County that are staffed by volunteers and 100% of your dollar will go to help veterans here that are in need - as opposed to 2 billion dollars raised nationally in the name of veterans with only a portion, sometimes a small portion, going to the veterans.

More than just the money, the real shame of this is making these new warriors an object of pity through cheap theatrics. As a Vietnam veteran we were hated by many but at least we knew where we stood. When it comes right down to it, I'd rather be hated than pitied.
The truly serious wound is what they're doing to the character of our new veterans. Since they represent such a small number of the population, unlike in the years of the Draft when every family had a veteran, today very few of us even know someone serving in the active military. Therefore, a good deal of the public opinion or general attitude toward these veterans is shaped by what people see as the images being produced by these fund raisers. That is, one to be honored, but not relied on, because they are either physically or psychologically disabled.

A lot of this is also driven by a guilty society who are in part doing penance for Vietnam. The same folks who hated us are still out there and still feel the same way, but now they're politically correct. Therefore, they wouldn't have anything negative to say. Now according to them, they love our new veterans but wouldn't leave their children alone with them - or give them a job - but "thank you for your service."   

Jerry Donnellan, Director
Veterans Service Agency of Rockland
20 Squadron Blvd., Suite 480
New City, New York 10956. 
Telephone: 845-638-5244 
E-mail: jerry@rockvets.com

Local Veterans' Organizations

If anyone would like to make donations that benefit veterans in our community, here are some of  our local veterans' organizations:

Rockland County Marine Corps League, P.O. Box 191, Haverstraw, New York 10927

Vietnam Veterans of America, P.O. Box 243, New City, New York 10956

Nam Knights, 1 Western Highway, Tappan, New York 10983

Korean War Veterans, P.O. Box 304, New City, New York 10956

R.C. Military Order of the Purple Heart, 20 Station Road, Pomona, New York 10970 


60 Minutes - March 15th, 2015 show:

Remember that old recruiting ad the Marines are "...looking for a few good men?" Well, now they're looking for a few good women as well. The Armed Services have been ordered to open all their ground combat units to women by the end of this year - or else give the secretary of defense a good reason why not.  Check out the segment here: 

Commander Bill Krissoff - A Father Goes to War

An interesting video about Cmdr. Bill Krissoff, who volunteered to serve, as did his two sons:


Friday, April 3rd, 2015:  RockVets Radio Show, hosted by Jerry Donnellan, will air just after the 10:00 a.m. news break.  Please listen in and call with any information to share with  veterans and the military community.  The show airs live on 1300 AM radio dial or on the internet at http://www.wrcr.com.  The call-in number is 845-362-0013.

Sunday, April 12th, 2015:   The Rockland/Orange District Council, Jewish War Veterans of The Untied States will serve as the Honor Guard for the Rockland Holocaust Center's Yom Hashoah Services on Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 5 pm

Sunday, April 19th, 2015:  Suffern Chamber of Commerce Car Show will be held on this date from 10:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m..  Proceeds of the day will benefit the Rockland County Chapter of Disabled American Veterans, Chapter 98.  Admission is $10.00.  Please bring your antique cars (1990 and older) and support the wounded veterans in our hometown.  For further information, contact Chuck Barone via e-mail:  cbaroneny@aol.com.

Thursday, April 23rd, 2015:  VetReady's Support Our Troops and Veterans Resource and Career Fair will be held in East Hartford, Connecticut on this date. This Fair is free for all military members, veterans and their spouses/family members.  For further information, contact Rosetta McClay via e-mail at:  admin7@vetready.org - telephone: 619-752-7854  or visit their website at www.vetready.org

Saturday, April 25th, 2015:   A group of Veterans known as the Bob Hope Division will visit the VA Nursing Home on Saturday April 25,2015 at 1230hrs.  During this visit the the patients will view a Dean Martin Show. They need your help moving the patients in their wheelchairs, so they can get to the show. The nursing home is located at: 2090 Albany Road, (Route 9) Montrose, NY 10548.   For further information contact chip1440@lawyer.com

Tuesday April 28th, 2015:  Carry the Load Relay.  On this date, "Passing of the Flag /Hosting Station" for the Carry the Load Relay is scheduled from 6:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m.  at the Congers Station in the hamlet of Congers.  For this year, Congers will be an "official" stop on the CTL Relay map.  This is a national relay that starts on April 28th, 2015 in West Point and ends on Memorial, Day, May 24th, in Dallas, Texas.  The relay lasts for 27 days, covering over 2000 miles, with thousands of walkers participating, who are "Carrying the Load in Restoring The True Meaning of Memorial Day."

Saturday, May 2nd, 2015:   Spring Valley Rotary presents its 3rd Annual Motorcycle Run.  Rain date - May 3rd.  Registration is 8:30 a.m. at Boulder Stadium in Pomona, New York 10970.  Registration fee is $25.00 for Rider and $15.00 for Passenger.   There is an after-event party at American Legion Post 1600, Station Road in Pomona, New York with music, great food, vendors, and the bar will be open as well.  Paul Borghese - Actor, Director, and Producer - will be the celebrity guest for the event.  For further information, please contact Chris Bailey at 915-906-6373 or via e-mail: cbailey@vistaelectric.com; or Dave Gouldner at 845-709-1425 or via e-mail:  helping counsel@gmail.com.

Saturday, May 2nd, 2015:  Veterans Hiring Fair and Stand Up from 10:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. at Orange County Community College, 115 South Street, Middletown, New York 10940.  This event is free and open to all people who served in the military.  Come prepared in business attire and bring your resume.  For further information and to pre-register, please call the Orange County Veterans Service Agency at 845-291-2464.


We get this question a lot - especially in this Day and Age, with National Guard and Reserve units being activated to full-time military duty in Iraq and Afghanistan. There were times during those two wars where half of our active Force was drawn from the Guard and Reserve. That is a considerable change from the way things were during the War in Vietnam where Guard and Reserve units seldom saw combat. 

Another thing today is the general public is getting further and further out of touch with the military - to the point where you have people dressing up in military outfits to get discounts at Starbucks. 

Further, we've been experiencing something called "Stolen Valor" where individuals  claim to have medals that they were never awarded. They claim to belong to units they never served in. Usually the first clue to these phonies is they all seem to belong to Elite units, that is Delta Force, Black Ops, Navy Seals, Special Forces, etc. None of these folks seem to have ever been cooks or truck drivers. The second clue that you're dealing with a wannabe is that none of this service is ever mentioned in their records or on a Discharge,  if in fact, they even have one. Their reason for this is "it was classified." Yeah, Right - I'm buying that.

One of the first ways to determine if someone is a veteran is if they are a veteran who served since 1949, simply to ask them for their DD-214. That is Defense Department Document 214. This should tell you what you need to know. Everyone - Guard, Reserve, and Active Duty should have roughly 6-months of service for basic and what's called Advanced Training.  This is Training, not Active Duty

At this point, most of your National Guard or Reserve would return home to their unit and do weekends and 2-weeks a year Summer camp. The Active Duty individuals would be assigned to a Base and begin serving in their MOS (Military Occupational Specialty) - that is, Infantry, Artillery, Military Police, etc. After 180 days of this active service, the Active Duty Personnel could be said to be Veterans. The National Guard and Reserve are not considered veterans for purposes of benefits unless or until they have been activated for federal service, as many units have been during Iraq and Afghanistan. This was generally not the case during Vietnam and that is why there was such a fuss about folks like Dan Quayle, Bill Clinton, and George Bush and their military service.    Jerry

Due to a steadily diminishing number of requests from our Marines, we are reinstituting cartoons! If any of you jarheads don’t understand, please call me!

Rockland County Medal for World War II veterans.  The ceremony to honor our World War II veterans will be on May 8th, 2015, North Rockland High School on Hammond Road in Thiells, New York  10984.  If you would like to receive the Rockland County medal, please send us your discharge papers and proof of residency as soon as possible.



Dominican College

Dominican College in Orangeburg, New York is encouraging veterans to enroll for their programs.  They are hoping to increase the veteran-student population at the campus and offer opportunities to those who have served in our military.  For further information, contact David Vacirca, Transfer Admissions Counselor, Dominican College, telephone:  845-848-7909 or via e-mail at:  david.vacirca@dc.edu.  Also, view the Dominican College link for veterans here:  



R.C. Department of Health

Volunteers are needed for an emergency preparedness drill which will simulate a local emergency response to a large-scale public health emergency event, such as a bio-terrorist attack or a pandemic (a sudden disease outbreak that becomes very widespread.)  

The drill is on Tuesday, May 5th, 2015, from 2:00 p.m. to 3:30 p.m., at the Pascack Community Center, located at 87 New Clarkstown Road in Nanuet. Volunteers are asked to pre-register at https://www.health.ny.gov/go2clinic Pre-registration is required by April 30th.

The drill, organized by the Rockland County Department of Health, will simulate a local emergency response that requires a large number of people receive medication. 
Volunteers are just needed for the day of the drill, and no training is required. Light refreshments will be provided. Volunteers will also receive a free t-shirt, while supplies last, for participating.  For more information or to register by phone, call the Health Department at (845) 364-2660.     

RILC:  Rockland Independent Living Center has launched the PFC Joseph P. Dwyer Peer-to-Peer Counseling Program. This Vet-to-Vet mentoring program is designed to assist veterans of all eras with locating supports to meet daily living needs.   For more information, please call: Lorraine Greenwell, Rockland Independent Living Center, at 845-624-1366 ext. 112.




Brosnan Risk Consultants is looking to hire about 50-75 veterans over the next month or so. These are for bank security guard positions throughout the five boroughs of New York City, and offer a salary of $17.00 per hour.  If anyone is interested, please contact Michael Kilkenny, Field Supervisor for Brosnan Risk Consultants, at 914-522-9335 or via e-mail:  m.kilkenny@brosnanrisk.com. 


Rockland County Department of Personnel has current employment opportunities available, as well as announcements of Civil Service Examinations and other employment information.  This link will bring you to the Job Opportunities page:







We would like to keep you up-to- date on events and matters of interest to veterans and will be sending these newsletters regularly. If at any time you no longer wish to receive them, please send a note to info@rockvets.com. Your e-mail address will immediately be deleted from our newsletter mailing list. If you find any of this information useful, please pass it along to others.

You can find information, useful links, and view our webpage at www.rockvets.com. Previous copies of our newsletters are also available on our website at: www.rockvets.com/newsletters. You can e-mail us at: info@rockvets.com or visit our facebook page: www.facebook.com/rockvets.

On the first Friday of each month, just after the 10:00 a.m. news- break, RockVets has a live call-in talk show on Rockland County’s local radio station – WRCR 1300 AM, hosted by Jerry Donnellan. We encourage you to call-in and ask any questions you may have relating to veterans or the military. This is also a good opportunity to promote any upcoming events for your organization that would be of interest to the veteran/military community. The call-in number is 845.362.0013. The show is also live on the internet at: 

So please listen in, and call if you have questions or information to share with our veteran and military community.

The next radio broadcast will be on Friday, April 3rd, right after the 10:00 a.m. newsbreak. Once again we appreciate the support of the Marine Corps League – Rockland County Detachment.

If you have information that can benefit the military and veteran community, or would like the community to know about an event your group is hosting, please send it to us so we can publish it in the next newsletter: info@rockvets.com.


If you plan to come to the Veterans Service Agency office, please call to make an appointment so we can give you the time you need - 845.638.5244.

Jerry Donnellan, Director, Veterans Service Agency of Rockland, 20 Squadron Blvd., Suite 480, New City, NY 10956 - Phone: 845.638.5244 - E-mail: jerry@rockvets.com

We hope you find some useful information in this month's newsletter.   If we can be of help, please be in touch.

Jerry Donnellan, Director
Veterans Service Agency of Rockland
20 Squadron Blvd., Suite 480
New City, New York 10956
Telephone: 845-638-5244

E-mail:      jerry@rockvets.com
Website:    http://www.rockvets.com

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